Fur Flies on The View – Ziegler and the media mistreatment of Sarah Palin

The dragons were spitting fire today on The View. The ladies interviewed John Ziegler maker of the new documentary “Media Malpractice”. Ziegler’s documentary takes a look at media bias during the 2008 Presidential election. Ziegler’s thesis is that the media’s love for Obama won him the election and their dislike and fear of Sarah Palin destroyed John McCain.

Tempers were flaring. I had an extremely hard time garnering any information from the segment. The interview started with some decorum, but quickly degenerated into a tag-team wrestling match, Joy and Barbara on one side, Elizabeth and Ziegler on the other. I’ve heard arguments between drunken bums that were easier to follow. Things got so fiery that at one point I thought Barbara was going to slap John Ziegler right in the mouth. Whoopi tried to maintain some sense of order and add some actual facts to the jumble of half-truths and conjecture, but when the ladies go off there’s no stopping the chain reaction.

There was one fact Ziegler used in his argument that I take issue with; the only one I could discern from the mess. In a poll done by Zogby 6.2% of poll takers could not recall that Palin had a pregnant daughter during the campaign. Ziegler contrasted this with the results from a question of Obama’s association with Weather Underground member Bill Ayers. “56.1% could NOT correctly say Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground (25% chance by guessing). Those that could associate Bill Ayers’ name/story with Obama voted 52-48 for McCain (We added Ayers name to the “Zogby” question and it significantly increased the rate of correct response, indicating a very superficial grasp of the overall story).”

This really proves nothing and I’ll tell you why. First, how can you say that adding Bill Ayers’s name to a question and getting more of a response means people did not know more about the story then they did about Palin’s. Just because someone knows Sarah Palin’s daughter is pregnant doesn’t mean that have more than a “superficial grasp” of the story. You can discount that part of the story.

Second, the relevance of Ayers to almost half of those who voted is in question. Ayers was most active in the Weathermen from the late 60s until the early 70s. 47% of all who voted were under 44. Even the oldest of those voters were only 7 or 8 at the end of Ayers involvement. Even when Ayers went to trial in 1980 few of the voters in the 47% would have been able to connect Ayers to his terrorism ten years ago. The pregnancy Bristol Palin was happening right during the election. It had an imedeacy to it that people seem to love these days. The Ayers story was old and moldy by media standards.

The media did treat Sarah Palin a bit harshly during the campaign. Some of the problems were her own. Politics is a rough game. Dirty laundry, relevant to an election or not, has a way of getting aired. Just ask Bill Clinton or John Edwards. Even Howard Dean and his infamous YEEEEAAAAA were so shoved in everyone’s faces he lost the Democratic nomination. Stuff like what happened to Palin happens every election season. Is it right? No. Will it continue to influence elections? Yes. It’s an unfortunate fact that’s not likely to change soon. This is the price of 24-hour news.

Watch the clips all the way through if you dare. Give me your take.

Fur Flies on The View – Ziegler and the media mistreatment of Sarah Palin

The dragons were spitting fire today on The View. The ladies interviewed John Ziegler maker of the new documentary “Media Malpractice”. Ziegler’s documentary takes a look at media bias during the 2008 Presidential election. Ziegler’s thesis is that the media’s love for Obama won him the election and their dislike and fear of Sarah Palin destroyed John McCain.

Tempers were flaring. I had an extremely hard time garnering any information from the segment. The interview started with some decorum, but quickly degenerated into a tag-team wrestling match, Joy and Barbara on one side, Elizabeth and Ziegler on the other. I’ve heard arguments between drunken bums that were easier to follow. Things got so fiery that at one point I thought Barbara was going to slap John Ziegler right in the mouth. Whoopi tried to maintain some sense of order and add some actual facts to the jumble of half-truths and conjecture, but when the ladies go off there’s no stopping the chain reaction.

There was one fact Ziegler used in his argument that I take issue with; the only one I could discern from the mess. In a poll done by Zogby 6.2% of poll takers could not recall that Palin had a pregnant daughter during the campaign. Ziegler contrasted this with the results from a question of Obama’s association with Weather Underground member Bill Ayers. “56.1% could NOT correctly say Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground (25% chance by guessing). Those that could associate Bill Ayers’ name/story with Obama voted 52-48 for McCain (We added Ayers name to the “Zogby” question and it significantly increased the rate of correct response, indicating a very superficial grasp of the overall story).”

This really proves nothing and I’ll tell you why. First, how can you say that adding Bill Ayers’s name to a question and getting more of a response means people did not know more about the story then they did about Palin’s. Just because someone knows Sarah Palin’s daughter is pregnant doesn’t mean that have more than a “superficial grasp” of the story. You can discount that part of the story.

Second, the relevance of Ayers to almost half of those who voted is in question. Ayers was most active in the Weathermen from the late 60s until the early 70s. 47% of all who voted were under 44. Even the oldest of those voters were only 7 or 8 at the end of Ayers involvement. Even when Ayers went to trial in 1980 few of the voters in the 47% would have been able to connect Ayers to his terrorism ten years ago. The pregnancy Bristol Palin was happening right during the election. It had an imedeacy to it that people seem to love these days. The Ayers story was old and moldy by media standards.

The media did treat Sarah Palin a bit harshly during the campaign. Some of the problems were her own. Politics is a rough game. Dirty laundry, relevant to an election or not, has a way of getting aired. Just ask Bill Clinton or John Edwards. Even Howard Dean and his infamous YEEEEAAAAA were so shoved in everyone’s faces he lost the Democratic nomination. Stuff like what happened to Palin happens every election season. Is it right? No. Will it continue to influence elections? Yes. It’s an unfortunate fact that’s not likely to change soon. This is the price of 24-hour news.

Watch the clips all the way through if you dare. Give me your take.

Blogs for Lunch – Michael Phelps, Pajamas Media, David Duke, Buy American

The Moderate Voice – Let’s Go Smoke Some Pot

Donklephant – Pajama Party

Crooks and Liars – I Didn’t Know He Was Still Alive

The New Republic – The Old Debate

The New Sheriffs – Collins and Nelson take on the stimulus bill

Maine’s own Senator Susan Collins (R) and Nebraska Senator Ben Nelson (D) have banded together. What are these two up to? They’re the new sheriffs in town. They’re gonna tell all those earmarks and pork in the stimulus bill to git an’ don’t come back!

The two are working to slice wasteful spending from the bill. Together they are trying to bring a bill to the senate that will attract the support of both conservative Democrats and moderate Republicans. Their main issue with the bill? A distinct lack of focus on job creation and economic growth specifically.

“Our goal is to have a bill that is both bipartisan and effective. That’s what we want. There’s no doubt that the American people don’t want to see partisan politics in this debate,” said Collins. Collins worried the bill was becoming “a Christmas tree where members are hanging their favorite program on it. A lot of these programs are worthwhile. But we have to focus on what the impact is on the economy and whether or not the spending creates or saves jobs. That’s the question. That’s the test that needs to be passed,” she told CNN.

Nelson goes on to explain some of the what should be cut from the stimulus or reduced:

“I like parts of it,” he said, pointing to funding based on infrastructure, “But there’s an awful lot of spending in it that I think is questionable, marginally supportive and stimulative for jobs.” Nelson said it’s important to fund things like programs to stop smoking, “but they ought to be part of something else, not part of a jobs stimulus bill.”

Collins and Nelson seem to have a grasp on what is really needed from this stimulus. As Nelson said, “The majority opinion is the people want jobs, jobs, jobs.” Both senators know that infrastructure spending is the key to this. First get our communities repaired and functional. Then we’ve got to move from the 20th century, 19th in some areas, to the 21st. That is how our communities can thrive and our industry stay competitive.

I have not always been a big fan of Collins. Unlike Maine Senator Olypmia Snowe (R) who I am a big fan of, I have disagreed with Collins positions a number of times. My opinion of her is turning around though, especially if she can pull this off. For the sake of this country the Senate Dems and Repubs had better pay attention to this.

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